What does it take to survive 40 years in the high-stakes world of professional animation? 

On the latest episode of the Big Guns Podcast, host Chris Crane sits down with Matthew Bates, a literal legend who has worked with Disney, Marvel, Pixar, and Bluth. From winning an Emmy right out of school to walking away from “dream” contracts on principle, this conversation is packed with industry secrets and heart.

Here is a teaser of the highlights that will make you want to head to YouTube immediately:

The Stan Lee “Work Cameos”

Imagine walking the halls of Marvel Productions and seeing a friendly guy you don’t recognize. You say “Hi,” ask his name, and move on—only to realize years later it was Stan Lee. Matt shares the hilarious story of how he had no clue who the comic book icon was because he wasn’t into comics at the time, long before Stan became a household name through his movie cameos.

The 45-Second “Draw-Off”

Is there a difference between a professional animator and a “normal” person? Chris Crane puts it to the test in a high-speed drawing challenge. Watch as Chris attempts his “famous owl” while Matt “roughs out” a professional-grade character in just over a minute. It’s a fascinating look at the sheer speed and muscle memory required at the Disney caliber.

Walking Away from Disney

In one of the most compelling parts of the show, Matt discusses why he walked away from a major opportunity on The Rescuers Down Under. Despite his childhood dream of working for Disney, Matt chose his independent contractor status and personal convictions over a corporate contract that felt like a compromise. His story of standing firm, even when his friends thought he was “nuts,” is a powerful lesson in integrity and faith.

Animation as an Elite Sport

Think animation is just sitting around doodling? Matt compares the training of a top-tier artist to that of a professional athlete. He breaks down the 12-month-a-year discipline required to master layout, backgrounds, and character movement, and why he used to spend hours at the zoo drawing live animals instead of copying what he saw on TV.

A Heart for Service

Beyond the big screens, Matt’s story is one of profound kindness. Whether it’s illustrating a children’s book like The Adventures of Happy Jack Texas to teach kids values, or spending dozens of hours creating free personalized drawings for high school football teams, Matt views his talent as a God-given gift to be shared.

Own a Piece of History!

Stay tuned until the end of the video to hear about a special auction. Matt is offering original animation drawings of classic characters like LeFou (from Beauty and the Beast) and Goofy to support Harvest MXD Ministries.

Click here to watch the full interview on YouTube!